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    Wait , What ???
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    Those do look hot!
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    I must be an outlier as I can resist those Models.
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    Awesome watch, now you can replace your non lumed CM!
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    As is all too common, I don't think Citizen is doing the dials any favors with the web presentations here. I think the black dial in particular will look better in person.
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    Although they are both great models I honestly think they don't deserve too much attentions. They cost a LOT and the fact the manufacturing process of the dial is so special doesn't justify the price increase. Again, they look superb (although I don't like the crown guard) but I actually don't think they are worth the money. In the end the AQ1000-66E cost 200K yen (vs 370K yen for the AQ4030) and for the extra money (80% more) you get a more elaborated bracelet, an ecodrive movement and a more elaborated dial. The accuracy is the same, the lume is the same, the hands and indexes almost the same and the perpetual caliber the same (and no crown guard). The AQ100 has the Chronomaster writing gone (which is a plus) but has the power reserve gauge (in the end not too much obtrusive). The diameter seems to be even smaller for the AQ1000 (I don't have the figures) which is a plus for me since it is very understated. Is it really worth the extra money ? You have the right answer but you also know mine !
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    Re: The Citizen New Release Paper Dial Black & White , LUME

    I wouldn't compare to the A010 models...compare to the other A060's. The AQ40xx's are all A060.

    Plus, you're comparing steel vs. titanium. The steel A010's range from 200K to 300K; the 3 A060's are 230K. In titanium, there are 4 A010's...and they're all 330K. So the premium on the dial isn't as much as it may appear.

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    Re: The Citizen New Release Paper Dial Black & White , LUME

    Hello gangrel, yes I know I am not comparing properly apples with apples but they are very close. As for the movements, I am hardly able to distinguish all the EcoDrive Axxx family since to me they differ only for the power reserve gauge. All the rest is the same (5spy, IAHH, PC and EcoDrive).

    As for the material, I know titanium cost more to be produced but the final finish of the polish is generally better on the steel surfaces. As for the bracelet and the dial, the style is subjective so for someone it could be worth the extra money and for others it won't.

    The only real difference could be the lume which, unfortunately, is not applied in all the lineup models...

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    Re: The Citizen New Release Paper Dial Black & White , LUME

    Hello,

    Citizen pictures do not make justice to their watches, unfortunately and it difficult to find what is different between them: there are variations in the dial texture on some of the Axxx, for instance AQ1040-53E has small cube pattern (sorry I do not know the proper name of it) and the AQ1020-51E has a vertical lines pattern and so on. It is not much of a difference but if they are seen in person those variation are more clear.

    Andrew Nik's photos of his AQ1040-53E made me appreciate more the aesthetics of the model.

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