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    Longines 41 VHP GMT L287.2 movt photo.

    Can't resist to open my new vhp GMT. It's a Longines L287.2 / eta 56.411. Interestingly the spacer ring is plastic and there are finger prints on the brass plate. Not a deal breaker since it's only 1200usd retail and I got some discount from New Zealand AD, but a little disappointed. The watch looks and runs beautifully.
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    Re: Longines 41 VHP GMT L287.2 movt photo.

    Wow-- 4 motor coils for the various independent functions?

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    Now I know what the inside of mine looks like....LOL. Nice picture, BTW.

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    Re: Longines 41 VHP GMT L287.2 movt photo.

    Quote Originally Posted by Huchiz View Post
    Can't resist to open my new vhp GMT. It's a Longines L287.2 / eta 56.411. Interestingly the spacer ring is plastic and there are finger prints on the brass plate. Not a deal breaker since it's only 1200usd retail and I got some discount from New Zealand AD, but a little disappointed. The watch looks and runs beautifully.
    A few months ago I posted a photo of my V.H.P three hander + date in the "Pictures of notable HAQ movements and watches ..." thread, maybe you should too, so we have a database entry for the GMT as well.
    I too had a partial fingerprint on the movement, it's quite probable that the same person assembled both movements. Would be cool to compare the prints.

    Anyway, it's my most expensive watch, also my grail and I couldn't be any happier with it (despite the fingerprint).
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    Re: Longines 41 VHP GMT L287.2 movt photo.

    "NO (0) JEWELS" just killed any desire I had for the VHP.

    But thanks for the photo, OP!
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    Re: Longines 41 VHP GMT L287.2 movt photo.

    Quote Originally Posted by Covenant View Post
    "NO (0) JEWELS" just killed any desire I had for the VHP.

    But thanks for the photo, OP!
    The use of stepper motors in quartz movements has essentially obviated the need/benefit of jewels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gaijin View Post
    The use of stepper motors in quartz movements has essentially obviated the need/benefit of jewels.

    HTH
    Very true

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    Huchiz,

    Thank you for sharing a picture of the VHP movement. It's a bit disappointing that the movement is held in place by a plastic ring, but I guess Longines had to keep cost low to reach their retail price range. Enjoy your watch in good health.

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    Re: Longines 41 VHP GMT L287.2 movt photo.

    Quote Originally Posted by gaijin View Post
    The use of stepper motors in quartz movements has essentially obviated the need/benefit of jewels.

    HTH
    Can this depend on who made the movement and how exactly?

    Miyota no jewel quartz is known to run forever. Including my own watches.

    Ronda (Swiss) 0 jewel break down in a way consistent with wear.
    I had a 2-year old 763 that started to stall every few hours even with a new battery.
    I see unused watches with Ronda 0 jewel sold for parts on ebay. Failed while in store. All with the same pattern: watch stops and needs to be hit to start again to run for a few hours.

    I am of very low opinion about Swiss Ronda company, but their failure rate makes them a great test object.
    If one had enough examples of jeweled vs unjeweled Ronda failures, these could certainly help to draw conclusions about quartz watches vs jewel count.

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    Re: Longines 41 VHP GMT L287.2 movt photo.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chasy View Post
    Can this depend on who made the movement and how exactly?

    Miyota no jewel quartz is known to run forever. Including my own watches.

    Ronda (Swiss) 0 jewel break down in a way consistent with wear.
    I had a 2-year old 763 that started to stall every few hours even with a new battery.
    I see unused watches with Ronda 0 jewel sold for parts on ebay. Failed while in store. All with the same pattern: watch stops and needs to be hit to start again to run for a few hours.

    I am of very low opinion about Swiss Ronda company, but their failure rate makes them a great test object.
    If one had enough examples of jeweled vs unjeweled Ronda failures, these could certainly help to draw conclusions about quartz watches vs jewel count.
    I'll be more specific.

    For movements like those used in the new Longines Conquest VHP watches, all hand movement is driven directly by a stepper motor. There is no gear drive train. No gears = no gear shafts = no shaft bearing surfaces = no requirement for a jewel to add life to the bearing surface.

    In other movements that do have gear trains, then yes, jewels used at the gear shaft bearing surfaces might reduce wear and prolong life.

    In the context of this thread about a stepper motor driven movement, my statement stands.

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