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    Re: General Discussion Thread for the 2018 Russian forum project

    Quote Originally Posted by Peterc2018 View Post
    Hmmm. Good point. The unadjustable 24-hour hand is the issue.

    Agree that the more Cyrillic we have the better

    The numerals were an integral part of the most recent incarnation of the Alpinist, but so was the green face and the segmented hands, so we've already moved a bit away from its design language. There were preceding versions of the Alpinist with no numerals at all, for instance this rather impressive example, which was the first of its name:
    https://wornandwound.com/affordable-...pion-alpinist/
    Thanks: that Alpinist truly is a champion. And hand-winding, too. A mountain climber in tuxedo!
    Good the hands we’ll hopefully get look more like this original Alpinist than the rococo late models.


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    Re: General Discussion Thread for the 2018 Russian forum project

    If we want to keep the indication of the degrees why not double them with the hours? For example 2/30 - 4/60 - 8/120 - 10/150 ....
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    Re: General Discussion Thread for the 2018 Russian forum project

    Quote Originally Posted by PanKorop View Post
    Thanks: that Alpinist truly is a champion. And hand-winding, too. A mountain climber in tuxedo!
    Good the hands we’ll hopefully get look more like this original Alpinist than the rococo late models.


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    Posting a picture from that link. Sadly these aren't easy to find...

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    Re: General Discussion Thread for the 2018 Russian forum project

    I'm going to leave the comments on the design of indices on dial/bezel to those with far more knowledge than me - suffice to say that I hope that this watch will be designed in the spirit of a tool watch, in which case a busy dial would not offend me at all. Indeed some Russian tool watches have a history of having busy faces...

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    Re: General Discussion Thread for the 2018 Russian forum project

    Quote Originally Posted by Palpatine View Post
    If we want to keep the indication of the degrees why not double them with the hours? For example 2/30 - 4/60 - 8/120 - 10/150 ....
    Crowded...
    Make all this spreadsheet fully lumed, and you’ll have some nice reading to fall asleep. Melatonin by Meranom?

    Now seriously, I have two watches with such double scale external bezels. The Orient “GMT” is about ok but it’s a beast of a diver’s case — 45mm; with a 4mm wide bezel insert, it manages. Then there’s a Citizen true GMT, with a solid engraved bezel, which provides still 3.5mm of useful writing, and does the job, too.
    Now, with the Elbruz, I’m afraid, because of the internal “super-compressor” ring, I’m afraid we don’t have even half that surface. Some of us have aging eyes, y’know, and I can’t read a date without a cyclops lens...

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    Re: General Discussion Thread for the 2018 Russian forum project

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    The descendant of the alpinist ... a display of the cardinal points on 2 concentric levels
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    Re: General Discussion Thread for the 2018 Russian forum project

    Quote Originally Posted by Palpatine View Post
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    The descendant of the alpinist ... a display of the cardinal points on 2 concentric levels
    Hmm... they probably decided that their compass ring was too large? Also, these precise degrees scales on a solar compass (missing sorely a 24h hand!) kind of crack me up. You better know your true solar time, then the time of sunset and sundown to compensate for solstices... and if you’re only 10° off, you’re really good!
    Of course, they may be useful, at true solar noon, and during equinoxes — just as a broken watch is true twice a day.

    Anyway, if Seiko goes this way, the Elbruz won’t be a homage but an Alpinist killer!

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    Re: General Discussion Thread for the 2018 Russian forum project

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    Re: General Discussion Thread for the 2018 Russian forum project

    We can see very well on the models with blue dial that we could drag hour indices 24 hours on the outside between the indications of degrees ...

    and they had a GMT function!

    in addition to the 24h index on the mobile bezel would make a first adjustment of the solar time before determining the south .. it is more convenient?
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    Re: General Discussion Thread for the 2018 Russian forum project

    I think there may have been some confusion when someone didn't spellcheck and went the Allpenis route ....

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