and only if this honourable committee will grant licence of use of this compass to seafarers,
may I suggest to label its depth rating as:
The sajen is, of course, the Russian equivalent to the fathom, and the marine sajen adopted the exact same value of 6ft.
Who needs Blanc pain, when got good old rye Black bread?
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This said, I call for 100: if provoked in a peeing-in-water contest, I’d rather double the claim of the original Blancpain (50 fm) than of its Seiko mod Fifty-Five look-alikes.
Oops, my bad, you right! 🤭 This is not an Amphibia, but a «* Komandirskie *» (so happy “our” won’t have these sergeant/Chevy stripes...) so rated 10 atm. Landlubber... So, if not better than Blancpain, 50 or 55 fm? Should we vote? Let’s vote whether we should, first
Btw, I love that illustration I fished in Wikimedia commons: it’s brilliantly informative, but so Leonardovitch Code!
Re the odd time scale, I suggested elsewhere to use either runic or glagolitic numbers
Which I’ll quite seriously follow-up for a Luch project next year...
You could also use a geek scale, with hex numbers to 24, or binary, with 2,two-square for 4... 8,16. No more, no less goofy than a California dial, btw.
Hi Comrades, do we also need to have a vote for a crystal type (mineral or sapphire)?
Personally I have decided to drop out if the watch lacks a sapphire. The lack of a sapphire for such a nice project watch would be a big mistake in my opinion. I would not mind the extra cost for if can be around €50 (which I believe should be possible). Better have total and complete watch than something that is forced to be kept under a certain price level and has a mineral full of awfull scratches after one year of daily use.
I wonder what you al think about it, and as said before, I think this should go to vote also in a early stage. just as case color, dial color etc.
It seems the very early stages — case, general idea, price objective and yes! design statement/bias — have been dealt with.
There are always many reasons not to do something, or to stall a project. If this car comes with an ashtray, I’m out. Is the watchband vegan? Hope the main spring is made in Russia, else it’s a deal-breaker...
For instance, I’d personally prefer a Plexiglas or Hesalite to any “sapphire” (except a star sapphire!). And a hacking movement. Hand-wound. And a 40mm case. Etc.
I agree with you: glass not my first choice. Yet I go along with the project, the way it turns out, with the whole kolkhoz or kibbutz voting. Collective decisions, or normal, time-proven diplomacy, always mean some kind of give-away. But at least they get something done.
I’ve never seen a perfect man-made object. Oriental craftsmen even purposely build in some flaw, preferably visible, just to prove than they don’t pursue the vain folly of perfectionism.
Now, back to the Elbrus, if I ever change my mind and want a harder (or softer) window, after many scratches and a laze to rub in some diamond polishing pastes, I can always go to a watchmaker and have it changed for sapphire. Or plexi, for all it costs. I doubt I’ll do it, though: wearing a shining new, unscathed “field” watch is like a brand new out of the shelf pair of dungarees with pressed and starched folds. Kinda greenhorn.
On the dial I changed to subsecond markings around the perimeter of the dial, which I think complements the heavier bezel designs. I changed the 12 index to 0, for more Russian feel, maybe. The silly Boctok logo to the right, as suggested, and then bringing the Elbrus logo to the top center. Simpler hands, although I have all previously shown options ready as well. Finally, along the bottom are a few other accent color options. Again, this is ideation for discussion, nothing set in stone.
Lets do degrees! Looks nice the rightmost one.
Indeed I like a dual crown case better over the K34, but I can settle with the K34 instead as being a nice watch. I just like to see a sapphire added. the lack of a sapphire and the choise for a bronze PVD case would be dealbreakers for me. You just cannot say that every design stage had been dealt with because it just has not, right? it is still open according to Arizones reply. that is why I raised it again.
Why not just have a simple vote over this one? I do not get it actually. I think adding a sapphire can be done at the $200 dollar price point for the total finished watch, just as Citizen can or any other Seiko can........And indeed I would like a plexi/hexalite even better but that would not be possible on the K34 I quess??
Have a nice day,
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Seriously, what a work! Thanks. And I like the top 0!
For the bezels, the strange thing here is that the double scales (2,3) while busier, are not less legible, with the same char sizes. So I like design 3 best.
I would like #1 too, but on 2,3 you made the N (C) stand out, and in #3 the only red marking. It makes it relate directly to the compass hand (also useful to cucinare i ravioli).
However, on #3, since you went for a 0 dial top, I’d prefer a large red triangle index without lettering.
I also insist I’d rather have the 15, 30, 60 bearings in three digits (015, 030, 060) to avoid confusion with a minutes scale.
Of course I like the silly Востоk, but it appears a bit too lean. I understand you sized it after the 3 o’ index opposite, but visually it doesn’t appear balanced: size fits, not the “volume” of white.
Finally: the hands.
1) thinner hour, minute — why not. It may help lean down a rather “rich” layout. Maybe a tad undistinctive to me, but ok.
2) thinner compass hand, I don’t know: here I preferred the original bolder one. Compasses have a thick hand.
3) the seconds hand bothers me; I’d prefer a needle style, more consistent with the hour and minute. As shown here, it also seems to point directly at the 24h/bearing bezel, not the seconds. Its bold arrow tip also defeats the thin subscale.
Maybe it confuses only me as resembling too much the 24h hand on Vostok's “GMT” (which I confess to hoard)?
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