Komandirskie blue dial KGB- maybe fake?
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    Komandirskie blue dial KGB- maybe fake?

    Today I receive from a relative an old Vostok, it looks like an automatic Komandirskie with blue dial, white KGB-CCCP symbol on the 12, date on the 3, red seconds hand.
    The rear side has Waterproof and Automatic on it, but no Vostok logo or whatever. Another big issue is that the word on the dial "Komandirskie" has a little R (registered trademark) after it.
    At first glance I was happy to have that nice and characteristic russian watch, but the more I keep reading on the internet, the less I feel it is a real Vostok Komandirskie.
    I can post a couple of pics of the dial, does anybody know if it is kinda a rare model or only a bad fake?
    (sorry for the grainy pics, I desperately need a new photo camera)
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    Re: Komandirskie blue dial KGB- maybe fake?

    Can't help much but isn't it one of those german made/design Vostok ?
    I read somewhere that the Mdl I have in mind was using some Vostok case & movement but the dial was made elsewhere. The original was marked CCCP .
    I still think it is an aesthetically nice watch .
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    Re: Komandirskie blue dial KGB- maybe fake?

    Maybe if I post a rear side pic that would be helpful
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    Straps looks like made in cheap leather, but looks at the same time resistant and sturdy, KGB cyrillic written embedded in the internal side of the superior strap.
    Please don't snob me, I'm not a fake buyer who's trying to impress, only a newbie collector looking for some help.

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    Re: Komandirskie blue dial KGB- maybe fake?

    Sorry but to see the inside movement you should have to wait until I buy a good screw-opener. I've got a chinese one but I'm not going to use it on that watch!

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    Re: Komandirskie blue dial KGB- maybe fake?

    I just opened the watch today and I found a genuine 2416B Vostok movement inside, a little dry of oil but surely in splendid shape.
    The more I manipulate the watch the more I see a difference between the metal of the case and other metallic parts:the case looks shiny, clean and cold to the touch, the bezel and the caseback are a little darker, opaque and rough to the touch, and even shows signs of detachment of the metal layer on the bezel.

    Maybe a steel case paired with chromium (or whatever Vostok used in USSR era) bezel and caseback? Looks like the case is completely different from the rest, not only in material, but also in manufacture quality.

    Not only a strange dial, but also a strange case; the mistery deepens...or is it simply a franken?

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    Re: Komandirskie blue dial KGB- maybe fake?

    Quote Originally Posted by FrankieBo View Post
    I just opened the watch today and I found a genuine 2416B Vostok movement inside, a little dry of oil but surely in splendid shape.
    The more I manipulate the watch the more I see a difference between the metal of the case and other metallic parts:the case looks shiny, clean and cold to the touch, the bezel and the caseback are a little darker, opaque and rough to the touch, and even shows signs of detachment of the metal layer on the bezel.

    Maybe a steel case paired with chromium (or whatever Vostok used in USSR era) bezel and caseback? Looks like the case is completely different from the rest, not only in material, but also in manufacture quality.

    Not only a strange dial, but also a strange case; the mistery deepens...or is it simply a franken?
    Amphibia case backs have 2 tabs that lay in matching notches in the case. The case pictured has one notch.

    Edit: but you don't seem to think it is an Amphibia...

    Hastily spouted for your befuddlement
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